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Mar 11, 10 - 05:15 pm Comment from: theloniousMac

Munch rules.

Mar 11, 10 - 05:23 pm Comment from: breeze

When are people going to grow up and stop snitching and whining about everything?

Life ain't for sissies - deal with it prima donas !

Free PR

Mar 11, 10 - 05:27 pm Comment from: pastrychef

Why the heck would he put his arms around a salesperson???

He should've tried that with the cops who showed up.

Mar 11, 10 - 05:28 pm Comment from: joey

3) A young woman working in New York City knew who Richard Belzer was when she decided to "go for the gold"

Talk about special victims. . . .

Future reference Belzer

Try not to lay hands on women. Of you do nor know them, never know how they will interpet and recall the touch.

Playing a detective should have clued him in a little!

Well he should have gone for broke and gave her a passionate kiss :-*

Mar 11, 10 - 05:34 pm Comment from: breeze

Touch...?

Imagine getting arrested in the Apple store for using a Multi-Touch Human Interface.

Mar 11, 10 - 05:42 pm Comment from: breeze

Apple, get that little spoiled brat out of there .

Mar 11, 10 - 05:46 pm Comment from: Snow Leopard

Waiting for ChrissyOne's take on this...

c) the idiot committed simple assault by touching her even if there was no intent to harm.

3... Richard Belzer is an idiot!

BTW: Munch doesn't rule.

Mar 11, 10 - 05:58 pm Comment from: mactricity

"Agnew, an aspiring dancer and recent Marymount Manhattan College grad" looking for 15 min. of fame?

@ mactricity:

15 mins of fame on 9th Ave giving him a blow job would have been better than trying to be the center of attention as an Apple employee.

Mar 11, 10 - 06:12 pm Comment from: Macdoc

Hopfully she is an X Apple employee!

iMaki -- Not true.

Assault is the realistic threat of harm to a person -- no physical contact is required. Battery is the forceful physical contact part of the equation. Technically speaking, you really can't have battery without assault.

Placing an arm on someone, though it might be slightly condescending in some instances, does not automatically qualify as battery and in almost every instance would not even rise to the level of assault.

All that being said, either "joey" up above is correct or else the woman is a little tightly wound and had no clue who Belzer is, i.e she overreacted.

Hope he goes to jail. Put your hands on my daughter while she's at work and I'll take your fscking life. Scum bag celebrity who thinks he's entitled. Plus he's just a bad actor and failed stand up comedien.

Mar 11, 10 - 06:16 pm Comment from: DLMeyer

First off, I don't believe her version of the story.
Second, Belzer certainly committed simple assault - just by touching her.
Third, he really should have known better!
c) joey had it right - she recognized him and was going for the gold.

Two wrongs, and no WAY to make a "right" out of it. Seems to have worked towards making a "write", though. Should her job be in danger? Depends what the security video shows, I guess. If it doesn't, she keeps her job and he gets charged with the crime - both "on Personal Recognisance" for a while.

Mar 11, 10 - 06:19 pm Comment from: breeze

iMaki:

You were already told to go make kaki

Mar 11, 10 - 06:28 pm Comment from: DLMeyer

eMac, speaking of "a little tightly wound"! You have no right to claim revenge a) in the United States, b) in the 21st Century or c) for a minor insult. You are as bad as the radical right Christians and Muslims who kill their daughters because the daughter ruined the family honor by being raped.
If Belzer had hurt the girl, or groped her sexually, or committed any of several other truly heinous acts, he should go to prison. That's what civilized people do. Barbarians over-react and take personal vengeance far beyond the nature of the original offense. Are you an insane, uncivilized monster? Are you a whack job?
Belzer may be a "bad actor" in his personal life, but he's good enough as a pro, and a decent comedian as well. Or do you claim you can be better ... at either?

Belzer is an a-hole
funny guy but still an a-hole who has no clue about what appropriate behavior is.
No, he didn't attack her, but touching a store employee, especially 2 hands on shoulders of a female store clerk (yes clerk) he doesn't know is boorish and stupid.
And she's probably overly sensitive and looking for attention. She should have just knee'd him in the nuts.

Mar 11, 10 - 06:30 pm Comment from: TowerTone

Probably won't be the last time she gets choked by an old wrinkled Dick.

I'm English, my wife needs to make an appointment to touch me, and my grandad once winked at me so I had him arrested, so I side with the shop assistant.

Mar 11, 10 - 06:35 pm Comment from: breeze

Yeah you need a certain amount of intelligence to recognize and appreciate humor, but
as Mick Jagger said when asked about all the hysterical feminist reaction to the multi platinum (when platinum meant something...) album "Some Girls":

"Fsck 'em if they can't take a joke".

Mar 11, 10 - 06:51 pm Comment from: The Other Steve

d.) Release the surveillance footage so whoever is innocent doesn't get their named smeared.

Mar 11, 10 - 06:56 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

I don't know about ya'll, but if Richard Belzer came walking up to me and put his hands on my shoulders I'd have hooked a knee over his leg and flattened the dude and had him zip-tied before security arrived. I don't need that kinda perversion of my American Space Cushion while I'd trying to sell award winning technology to mall crowds. He's only tough on TV.

Mar 11, 10 - 06:56 pm Comment from: Jim - TIV

@DLMeyer... ok... no more caffeine for you, and remind me never to piss you off.

Towertone.... that comment was truly Amparesque

Snowleopard... I'd love to see C1's take on this also.

Mar 11, 10 - 07:02 pm Comment from: Predrag

It is genuinely sad when someone's first reaction on human touch is "Help! I need help!". It seems that this kind of thinking dominates the American society. Fortunately, there are other places in the world when a a person can touch another person without implying physical harm or sexual intent. Most peoples on the European continent comfortably and easily hug and touch each other on arm, shoulder, neck, without implying sexual intent, nor physical aggression. In my opinion, it is much healthier than keeping distance. OF course, I may be wrong...

Mar 11, 10 - 07:25 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ Jim - See above.

Assuming he wasn't angry about something, what is this guy going to purposely do playing around while waiting in line...is he really going to commit some perverse act while in a public?line?
All you politically correct types free some child molester in order make room to put this guy in prison for playing around while bored in line.
I got bumped, patted, knuckled, play punched, and shook hands in church this past Sunday numerous times...I think I'll sue ballistically. This is Hillaryarama, folks.

The guy is an a-hole for doing this, regardless of who he is.

According to Belzer, it's on surveillance tape and that's why the cops released him- his version was vindicated. She probably just freaked out, and Belzer is a touchy-feely guy who didn't anticipate her reaction. Now she wants money! Me, I wouldn't touch a stranger. Then again, I'm not the extrovert Belz is.

Mar 11, 10 - 07:53 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ iStepchild

So you're saying you have the same comfort level with your fellow parishioners as you would with a random Richard Belzer encounter? What kind of church do you go to?

Mar 11, 10 - 07:57 pm Comment from: HughB

@predrag
Hugging a friend or relative is normal in all cultures. Touching a strange woman without permission is taboo is almost all cultures. I fully agree with eMac, touch my daughters and you will deal with me. TV actor or not. What is with you people? Besides he is a creep.

Mar 11, 10 - 08:06 pm Comment from: Giles

@ Predrag - 06:02

Mr Belzer was lucky Miss Agnew didn't shoot him in "self-defense". Oh... I thought all Americans carry guns at all times.

Obviously this employee was looking for a payday.

Apple Retail policy is for an employee to seek out a manager, who would call the police. Apple Specialists are NOT allowed to call 911 regarding any issue within the store, unless instructed to do so by a manager.

Perhaps he was getting revenge for the Hulk Hogan incident by picking on someone his own size?

Mar 11, 10 - 08:11 pm Comment from: Giles

On a lighter note, this couldn't have happened in a Microsoft Store.

Mar 11, 10 - 08:15 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ Giles

Of course not. They don't have anybody in line.

Mar 11, 10 - 08:18 pm Comment from: CitizenX

She is in sales in a retail environment and should have been trained well enough to handle any customer that is overly friendly.

She has over reacted and I sure hope the surveillance tape shows she was assaulted, if not she will be the laughing stock of the employees for years to come. Might even make it into a training session.

She probably can't be fired though and if she was, she probably could sue. Not that she would necessarily win, but would probably settle.

Mar 11, 10 - 08:27 pm Comment from: Giles

@ Chrissy - 07:15

The real question is : Will Mr Belzer still buy Apple products ?

She was named "Milan"?!? Uh-huh.

Customers do some wacky things. Touching your shoulder is pretty mild. I think that kind of employee is soon to be an ex-employee.

Mar 11, 10 - 08:32 pm Comment from: Giles

Miss Agnew couldn't shoulder the stress of working in a crowded store.

Mar 11, 10 - 08:48 pm Comment from: Romeodawg

Yes I'm sure Belzer screamed I NEED HELP, lunged at a female Apple employee, and began choking her in public. That sounds absolutely plausible.

Mar 11, 10 - 08:52 pm Comment from: Romeodawg

@ChrissieOne LOL

Mar 11, 10 - 08:55 pm Comment from: Steve516

A good friend of mine works there, I'll ask him for the facts.

Mar 11, 10 - 09:11 pm Comment from: Lurker_PC

Richard who?

Mar 11, 10 - 09:31 pm Comment from: Scot Murphy

Belzer lost my respect when he was doing stand-up and made fun of Katharine Hepburn's body tremors. He can't do anything right by me since.