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Tick for the trademark.

Now lets see the product!

Oh and an Australian iTunes music store!!!!!

PLEASE!?

Luke

Who's really suprised? I mean it's cool and all, and I'll buy one for sure, but I think everyone's seen this one coming.

So, here's what I think they should be doing - use the Dock connector as a universal bus on everything - cable boxes, media computers, cars, boats, conference rooms, you name it.(of course, the car part is already coming true) - then, you could use the iPod to view files while travelling, bring the files to someone's home and play them, put them in the car, or have them in a water tight compartment on the boat entertainment center, or even the key content unit in corporate presentations - imagine KeyNote to go without the need for a bulky laptop.

If the iPod conector was the standard(and it's already on it's way), then the market just gets even larger. The fragemented way M$ and their partners go about this media business will always keep them away from the mass market numbers they need so badly to succeed.

Go Apple!

They're homing in on the key strategy - use the Dock connector as a universal bus on everything - cable boxes, media computers, cars, boats, conference rooms, you name it.(of course, the car part is already coming true) - then, you could use the iPod to view(play) files while travelling, bring the files to someone's home and play them, put them in the car, or have them in a water tight compartment on the boat entertainment center, or even the key content unit in corporate presentations - imagine KeyNote to go without the need for a bulky laptop.

If the iPod conector was the standard(and it's already on it's way), then the market just gets even larger. The fragemented way M$ and their partners go about this media business will always keep them away from the mass market numbers they need so badly to succeed.

Go Apple!

Will you guys get real?!?! Video iPod, HAH!

Next thing you know you'll be saying Apple will be releasing a two-button mouse! It'll never happen!

"So, do you still think Apple's not prepping an "iPod video" for release?"

heh. Well, Creative's video gadget is out now. All loaded up with extra fancy features, too. So Apple will wait a while and let everybody watch Creative stumbling around .. and then Apple will quietly step up with the video iPod, the video content and the video distribution model and take all the business.

I guess video is coming to iPod! I'd better start saving.

OT: I found this iPodDailyNews site through Google News. I see that's it's linked to "MacDailyNews." I have some questions:

I am a Windows PC user with three iPods (one is my wife's) and the need to get a new PC.
I am on the fence about the MAC vs. Windows thing. What should I do?
I have a lot of time invested in Windows and I know how to use it. How long will it take to learn the Apple?
What about all of my old files?
Does MAC really have no viruses and spyware?
Can MAC do Wi-Fi well?

If I did get a Mac, what model should I get? I like to surf the web, email, IM, chat and use my computer to learn web design, for photoshop, paying bills - the usual stuff. I have a very old (3 years) Gateway desktop with Win2000, but I really want a laptop for my next computer.

iPod video has BEEN there for awhile!!!

Go to iTunes Music Store.
Select Podcasts.
Search for "videocast".

Just like their brothers, all of these podcast videos can be downloaded for free and played full screen in iTunes.

Although my favorite, "MacTV", seems to be missing! Perhaps their use of Apple commercials was illegal.

Making a video iPod doesn't seem like a major step, especially for Apple. I expect much better from Apple like TV broadcasts and movies via Podcasting as well as an Airport Express AV for wirelessly sending your videos to your TV.

THEN you can set up YOUR television viewing on YOUR schedule. This would beat TiVo because you don't have to wait until a set time to record your shows. You can also get previous shows you may have missed. With the existing Podcast auto subscriptions, YOU create your own set of channels, thus making your own customized virtual cable company.

Every broadcast, every movie, anytime YOU wish.
Now, THAT would be Apple-logic.

h264 hardware acceleration?

They may just be modifying the patent to protect themselves from someone else using their style & technique to release their own version of a iPod video.

Personally, I think that as many people I see using their digital cameras or even worse, their cell phones to shoot video, merely allowing us to play them back on the iPod is a no brainer. I'm not saying the iPod should become a commercial broadcast camera quality playback deck, just let us watch our silly little clips or music videos (or porn for those that can't go without).

The idea of the iPod being able to play HD back to a monitor or TV is very intriguing, but I fear for battery life and harddrive wear.

So, even as the clues abound, we are left with a big load of speculation...

MW= Video will ad "value" to the iPod line while Apple perfects their PDA!

Jason, coming here, you know the answer to your question: get a Mac

Seriously, there are a couple of issues you should consider:
1, using a Mac after Windows. I think this is a small issue, as, going the other way (Mac to Windows use), it just took me a few days to get up to speed on a Win machine. In a couple of weeks you'll have no problems, esp. if you have a friend or two who can clue you in to a few secrets to getting workflow done quickly.
2, Software. This is a bigger issue, as you'll need money to replace programs like Photoshop, Dreamweaver, and whatnot. I personally like the Mac versions of this type of software better than Windows, but you will have to pay a cross-grading fee to get a version that'll work on a Mac.
3, Model. You should get either the high-end iBook or a lower-end 15" Powerbook (you can go to the apple store to comparison shop). The only real trouble with the low-end iBook for the work you'll be doing is screen resolution: only goes to 1024X768, which feels kind of small to me for design work. If it's just email, web and chat, then that size screen is fine. The powerbook will run you lots more money, but it's worth it for a number of reasons; in fact, I just ordered one yesterday, so there you go!
4, Viruses and spyware. None on the Mac (it's a good feeling!)
5, Wi-Fi. I use my old (4 year old) powerBook all over the world: wifi spots in airports, restaurants, hotels, friends' houses, etc., all work just fine. I also have 5 Macs hooked up to an airport base station at home (with Earthlink DSL), and that works fine too. Normally you just open the thing up to wake it from sleep, the laptop "looks" around for a few seconds, and gives you options on what to connect to. Pretty darned simple

Hope this info. helps in your decision making. Good luck!

"heh. Well, Creative's video gadget is out now. All loaded up with extra fancy features, too...."

People say oh well, Apple isn't the leader why does everyone get so bent about it. They aren't the innovator, they arent the first to market. Well, folks the reason is that Apple sets the standard on design and usablility with this stuff. So just because some punk a$$ company throws a product out in the marketplace doesn't mean it's going to capture the entire market.

Remember, when the iPod was first released it drew many yawns (mostly from the Mac Fanboy community who yawn at anything Apple does short of inventing time travel) but it was the design and implmenetation of the entire system that made people fall in love with it.

Apple just does it better folks, and that's why people including their competitors can't wait until they release the next big thing. They show the world how it's done right. Everyone else just follows

Hey Luke. Does it read dopi in Oz?

You are upside down you know.

Sorry Luke, that should be-podi.

Just turn it over mate.

Jason,
1) get a Mac, you won't regret it.
2) If you know Windows you'll learn the Mac OS in about 15 minutes since Windows copied many of the Mac's keyboard shortcuts.
3) What about your old files? They'll open in Mac as well.
4) OS X, going on five years, has zero viruses.
5) Apple's wi-fi runs circles around Windows.
6) Unless you are doing major photoshop work any Mac will do. The newly updated iBooks starting at $999 should work well.
7) In the Mac world 3 years is not old, that is jus broke in.

This makes it official - a video ipod will be soon!

I wonder if it will be announced at MacExpo in Paris along with the iflicks Store too!

And... the Mighty Mouse bluetooth model with rechargable dock! (no more AA batteries!)

"They may just be modifying the patent to protect themselves from someone else using their style & technique to release their own version of a iPod video."

This is a trademark, not patent. The important thing is that, in order to be issued a tradmenrk, you have to prove to the trademark office that you actually have a product and that you intend to intentd to use it in commerce. Unlike a patent, you cannot submit design drawings or concepts. You actually have to show a "product".

At the very least, this means there is a prototype that is pretty far along.

ron,

There's no upside down in space, didn't they teach you that at school? Oh that's right they just taught you how to fire a gun.

Australians hate the term Down Under as much as Americans hate being called Sepos.

What goes around comes around. You insult one Australian and you insult us all. Try keeping on the topic…Apple related news (you know Mac Daily News!!!!)

G'day Luke, one down in the Ashes and four to go.

I would like to see some cartoons on my iPod tough!

Jason,

Glad to see that you're curious about the Mac platform. I guess the 'halo effect' worked on you!

A couple of things to get you started:

1.) In the Apple world, we do not refer to our computers as 'MAC'. That means "Media Access Control", a hardware address which uniquely identifies each node of a network.

2.) If you talk about the operating system, do not pronounce it "Oh Ess Ex"; the "X" represents the Roman numeral "10".

3.) Apple has a plethora of available information for Windows users like you (with a few tips thrown in for those of us who have been on the platform for years, just to keep it interesting), in a convenient site:

http://www.apple.com/support/mac101/

There, they cover the basics and introduce our Windows friends to the Mac experience. Check it out if you get a chance.

4.) Ignore any zealots who give you a hard time about 'suffering' with Windows. After all, you're obviously one of the smart ones who realizes there are alternatives!

5.) If you're generally a person who's willing to try new things (and you must be, otherwise you wouldn't be here), it doesn't take too long to get used to Macs and OS X. You have iPods, which means you have iTunes and Quicktime already installed on your system, which means that you've already somewhat experienced what it's like to use a Mac program (and they're even better on a Mac!). Find a local Users Group, go to a store that sells Apple computers, or ask around... I'm sure one of your friends has a Mac; after all, Apple's installed user base is close to 16%!

6.) Unless you're doing specialized, esoteric stuff with your 3-year old Gateway, most all of your data files will transfer over. You will probably have to throw down some money for the Mac versions of Microsoft Office and Photoshop (call Adobe and ask if they'll 'crossgrade', if you already have a paid version of Photoshop for Windows). Other than that, I can't imagine that you'd have a file format that some program on a Mac wouldn't recognize...

7.) Nope. No viruses. No spyware, either.

8.) All Macs have the ability to connect wirelessly to a network, and all iBooks and iMacs come standard with an 802.11g card and Bluetooth 2.0 preinstalled. PowerBooks, too. I'm not sure about PowerMacs.

Good luck!

[BTW, it sounds like an iBook would probably work well for you. Or an iMac. I'd recommend going to your nearest Apple Store, or if there's not one nearby, call 1-800-MY APPLE, and one of the friendly sales associates will be able to help you make a decision and answer your questions more completely. Be aware, however, that there are some things they either can't or won't answer; for those questions, a local Users Group would probably be better, or a site like MacFixIt.com]

Hate to say it, but I don't hate being called "Sepos" at all - but that's probably because I have absolutely no idea what it means. I didn't know Aussies hated the "down under" reference, but it makes sense. I'll make sure to avoid using it in teh future. Thanks for the new information - "learn something new every day"!

MW: come, as in "come again?"

To our antipodean friends,

Blame it on Men At Work. Until that song of theirs, most Americans probably didn't know the term "Down Under". But it's good to know that it's grating for you. Being called a "Yank" wears on me, so I can empathize.

Besides, both "Yank" and "Down Under" have a bit of a naughty connotation...

Consider "Down Under" struck from my association with Australia and New Zealand!

[BTW, what's a 'Sepo'?]

Well, I was a 'Limey' a few years ago. No problems dude, yank, or mick, or whatever.

Bikersfule, let Luke speak for himself.

I have to polish my rifle. Pole? Polish. Logic would say pollish, but we Limeys made our language from all over the place.

Maybe the addition just means that the iPod can store, not play, video; which is the current configuration.

Jason, get a Mac. The guys I show my Mac to in my lab are getting jealous. If you use it for a week or two, you'll wonder how you got by without it. You may stumble around for a couple weeks on a few things, but you should be able to use it as fast as your Windows machine within a couple days. Just make sure you are willing to learn how it works and not to assume that it will work like Windows - it is different, but better in most areas.

Just get your files onto your new Mac (either via CD's, network, or Firewire (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58583) and use them like you did on your Windows machine.

I haven't even had a virus scanner on my Mac in the past two years and absolutely no problems. I still take normal precautions when about unknown e-mails and websites though.

my PowerBook has a much better time getting and staying connected to Wi-Fi than my girlfriends WindowsXP laptop does.

As for the model, it depends on your budget. I've got a 12' PowerBook and love the portability and price. If you get or have an external monitor, it will do monitor spanning to increase your screen real estate.

As for software, you might want to look into the Gimp (http://www.gimp.org/macintosh/). It is basically a free (Open Source) version of Photoshop. Depending what you are doing, it works very well. I've been using it and it does pretty much all of the photo work I need it to. You might not need Office - Macs come with a program (TextEdit) that will read and write basic Word files and you can also get Open Office (open source version of Office). It depends on what your needs are though.

Thanks for all of the information.

It's just so hard to pull the trigger. A PowerBook is a lot of money to me. I'm thinking about a Dell laptop with Windows XP. It would be a step up from my current system.

I don't want to have to learn a whole new operating system - I have so much time invested in Windows already. I feel like I'd be wasting it all if I switched to Mac. But, that Mac OS X Tiger is so enticing!

Conflicted? That's me. Has anybody here already made the switch and can tell me what I'd be in for?

Jason...

At the request of a customer - I just bought my first Dell (on their bill).

I have never worked on a PC - ever...

It has windows XP - and I picked XP right up, so you should do the same with OSX.

Of course - I will:
1 - Never download anything to it that is suspicious.
2 - Never use email on the PC.
3 - Have firewalled it to the hilt.

These are issues that never arise by owning an Apple. I hope this has helped.

Do I not think Apple is releasing a video iPod? Well, adding "video" to the tradmark covers the current ability to pull music videos off of iTMS.

The rest is speculation.

>Conflicted? That's me. Has anybody here already made the switch and can tell me what I'd be in for?>

You'd be in for 'Heaven'

and you'd be a lifer.

Just do it, you'll never look back, or forward, for that matter, looooooking into the faaaaar distance for vista.

Jason,

I made the switch in late June. I do a lot of video editing, photo, etc; so I got a PowerMac. This won’t be a detailed “this feature is great, that feature is great” post. This is a chronicle of my experience and thoughts over the last month. I apologize to those concerned as I keep off topic.

For the first few weeks I was extremely bored with my new Mac and OS X. Then I read a great post on MacRumors.com that explained it all. I had nothing to do. Let me rephrase that, I had to do nothing. I was used to fiddling with spyware, virus updates, Norton, reformatting, rebooting, tweaking, uninstalling, reinstalling, Ctrl-Alt-Del, Task Manager, trying to figure out what window I was last using, etc. As a windows user for over 15 years (running on an 8088, I remember my dad bringing home our 1st serial mouse) the daily chores begin to seem like a minor thing. That is until I stepped over to a Mac.

I admit I don’t know everything about Tiger or the Mac, yet. By the way, if you do switch, “Mac OS X Tiger : The Missing Manual” is the best book I’ve found on the subject. If you want to get an idea of what’s ahead, browse a copy in your local bookstore. However, you don’t need it. Open starting the system I was amazed. In a few weeks I realized what an OS should do – allow me to work unhindered; OS X does. Expose is amazing, F9-12. The dock unites the start menu and task bar plus some. Finder and spotlight are so intuitive. Smart folders are… well, just plain smart. Everything about Tiger is fluid. I always thought the first reason listed on Apple’s website for switching was lame, “It just works.” Now, I know that statement deserves the #1 reason. WiFi: just works. Everything I plug in, install, burn, open - just works. “The Mac – It Just Works.”

All my time is now spent doing something interesting and productive. If you have a creative side to you, you’ll love iLife. All my files transferred with no problem. With the book I mentioned, I’ve realized even more possibilities with OS X. I started highlighting all the tips I found innovative and new over Windows XP for easy reference. The pages are now more yellow than white. Honestly, almost every page has something highlighted.

In Windows XP, I tweak every setting, utilize every tip for speed boost, and arrange my desktop, start menu, and folder in the most efficient manner. I consider myself a “Windows Power User”. Now I realize all that work was for nothing, the newest computer user just starting on a Mac had me beat hands down, probably for years. Like you, I was hesitant to switch. Now, I will forever be hesitant to switch back.

Hi Jason,

I've been a Mac user since 1990, and a PC user since 1987. I've seen it all since Mac OS 6, and MS-DOS 4. I'm also a software engineer, so things are a bit skewed for me compared to other "users". But still, I thought this might help.

I can tell you, you will get what you pay for if you get a Mac. They'll pay for themselves with your sanity. They're certainly more elegant than PC's, and often a lot easier to use and get things working with.

As a quick comparison, go find out what the current microphone sound level is on a PC (running XP) compared to a Mac (running OS X). I did this last week - on the Mac, the mic level (with bars telling me actually how well the mic was receiving sound - like those bars on tape decks) is on the sound control panel itself. In Windows XP... well, you have to run a Hardware check wizard to get it to show you (it's via a button in the control panel, but not overly obvious, then it takes like 30 seconds to "test" things before it shows it to you).

Wireless? We have a D-link wireless router... the Mac's - straight on after setting up the router name and password, the wife's work's PC? Well, again, 2 evenings of frigging around - it was on, but would keep dropping off (I'd see in the router log how it would connect, disconnect 3 times then get kicked off completely). Why? Some crazy setting called "IEEE authentication" in the network settings. Oh, that's pretty @!#%ing obvious. And we're I.T. people. And we called D-Link tech support, who didn't know either. We figured it out via Google.

After XP, learning OS X will be quite easy; in actual fact, you have to get out of the habit of thinking too hard about what to do. (If I get stuck on something, I often think, "How would an ignorant person do this?" and sure enough, the answer comes up straight away. It's bizarre.) You shouldn't take more than a few hours to get acquainted with the basics of the system, where it puts files, the dock, how to run apps and so on. You can probably figure most of it out in the Apple Store playing on one of them. Oh, there's no registry either - something else which makes things a little easier.

Most major apps have cross platform versions, so files should pretty much just transfer across (eg. Word, Photoshop).

There are currently no viruses & spyware (well, not that are known - maybe someone is tinkering in a "lab"??)

Paying bills online shouldn't be an issue, but check with your bank... some banks, apparently, don't have brilliant Mac support (we're with Citibank, and things are fine).

IM - with iChat you get proper video conferencing to other Mac users... MSN is less exciting - text only. Yahoo fares better with video only, but no sound (so we use Skype for sound, and Yahoo for video when talking to PC's... bit of a pain)

I'd recommend a Powerbook because of the better graphics and ability to attach an external monitor (digital too!) to provide a larger screen. iBooks only mirror existing desktop @ 1024 * 768 (w/o a non supported hack)

Hope this helps.

er anyway.. back to the topic...

short form video... a tablet for movies.. let's see it..

Why not?

In fact, I am sure iPods will evolve to a multipurpose machine, including everything the Newton PDA had in the past, everything cellphones have in the present and everything cammeras will have in the future.

It's just a matter of time, chips & software.

Agreed... back to the topic.

I hope this trademark change is a sign.

It's too bad Creative Labs beat Apple to it. I'm sure there will be a few who purchase their gadget.

I guess as far as trademarks go, video is video. I'd like to output my HD video content to my HDTV. It seems like an HD iPod w/ component out would be the only way for a while, with the HD wars raging. HD is doubtful, but would give it another one up on the competition.

However, as mentioned, a coupled video store is what will keep Apple on top if there is a market for portable video. I like the out to TV and Tivo capability of CL. If Apple makes their own DVR/media Center, I'm sure the two will pair nicely.

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Jason, visit the macrumors.com forums. You will find plenty of information from switchers there.

I don't see a video ipod doing very well for the simple reason that most people aren't going to stop for 2.5hrs and watch a movie on it.

I do see a video ipod doing well IF it can connect to a tv and be used to watch a video on the tv with it. So, if Apple were to create an iMovie store where you could download a movie to your video iPod and connect it to a tv, then this seems like it could work.

- Mark

Mark,

Who needs movies on an iPod. If I could Tivo 30 minute shows from the history channel and watch them on my daily train ride... Sweet.

Sure not everyone has a daily public transportation commute. So, watch them during lunch, waiting in the DMV line to get your license back, etc. I'm sure people will find the time to squeeze in 15-30 minutes of video to stay caught up.

I'll refrain from a rant on personal communication skills now days. But before I do, one article made a good point. Many people plug in their Earbuds just to get rid of the whining babys, ringing cell phones, and screaming cell phone conversations around them - "iPod, a piece of sanity."

Heck, I could even listen to the History Channel during work with video turned off. Now that I say that, it'd be nice to get the audio for those shows on my current iPod. I wonder if history channel podcasts anything... Be right back.

"Come visit the Land of Wonder - the Land Down Under" is a former Aussie promotional thing. I guess the promotional board didn't know how sensitive most Aussies are.

And what's with the gun remark from someone calling theirself "bikersrule"?

Nobody would buy one.

Apple did this just to stop anyone else from making a video player called an iPod.

Hi my name is Nobody, and I'm an iPodholic.

Apple weren't first with MP3 players yet have a good hold of that market after getting the iPod "right". I doubt they'll arrive late to the video party, or if they do, they won't have trouble beating the existing competition by getting it "right" again. Not if the competition is making devices with 3" screens and poor battery performance anyway.

Screen (and resulting device) size is clearly the biggest issue with such a device. Too small and it's difficult to watch, too big and it's cumbersome to carry around.

Paperback books are a fairly standard size - around 7" x 4" (~180mm x 100mm) and of course, varying thicknesses.

Would it be a stretch to make an educated guess that a video iPod wouldn't be similar in dimensions? (and say less than 1" or 25mm thick.) Considering that people don't think twice about shoving a paperback book into their bags as they run to catch the bus, why would they balk at having to carry a device the same size as this instead? (yes, paperback books are pretty light weight, and they're not stiff, but still; hardback books are often carried around as well.)

Another thing going for a paperback sized device - the ratio of 7:4 isn't far off the standard DVD movie ratio of 16:9 either.

Such a device may even double as an electronic book too, if the screen res and contrast was good enough (Quartz text helps here.) This could revolutionize e-books, which are really doing so well *sarcasm*.

The problem with such a device is of course battery life. Such screen sizes take lots of juice to run constantly (using current LCD technology). So, why wouldn't Apple innovate here? There are fuel cells on the very near horizon which use alcohol as a fuel and they last many more times longer than current battery technologies. Refilling the alcohol yourself (presuming you don't drink it first! *hic*) or replacing these "batteries" should be a snap. Hands up who already has a Zippo lighter?

Of course, I could be full of it, and Apple may innovate a video iPod totally differently, perhaps using a larger rollable screen, or a mini projector (but project onto what? Airplane & car seats don't have white backs). Also, from what I understand, these technologies are a while away from being good enough for video (rollable screens especially have a slow refresh rate.)

All I'm saying is that as a geek, if someone showed me something similar with all the Apple goodness one expects, I'd be like "Wow - I gotta have one! Oh wait, the wife'll want one too... I'd better get two!"

Hey all!

I don't mind Down Under that much, but I do find the whole "upside down" stuff a bit ho hum, it's a planet, it's a sphere, at any point on it, there is an "opposite" point. From where I'm standing you are all upside down - hahahahaha so funny.

"Sepo" is an even more awful Aussie slang term for a "Yank". Aussies have their own form of rhyming slang, and from "Yank", you get "Septic Tank", which is then shortened to "Sepo". As I said it is awful, and I don't use it.

Anyway getting back to my main point, video capable iPod great - lets see it!

And where is the Australian iTunes music store!?!?!?! I want to buy a copy of Men At Work’s “Down Under”


Luke

Topic and joke aside - You can join the rest of us on wanting that copy of Men at Work's "Down Under." Men at Work isn't on the American iTMS. However, you can get the Man at Work, Colin Hay (solo work). In my opinion, his acoustic renditions and reworks of all the Men at Work hits are great. I saw him at the Belly Up Tavern in San Diego, Ca two weeks ago - Excellent.

Back on topic. I'd be interested in a video iPod. Can't wait to see how Apple solves all the issues.

Bottom line: Who REALLY wants a hand held video playback device? In what situation can such a device be used to make it valuable to the consumer?

Will Apple have a video iPod? YES. You just won't carry it around.

The video iPod will sit at your entertainment center at home. Maybe the size of a Mac Mini. It will:

-Act as a TiVo type device easily recording your favoirte TV programs through an iTunes-store type interface.

-Act as your DVD player and DVD Recorder archiving programs on a dual-layer DVD...with copy protection so you can only play it back on your machine.

-Act as a gateway for paid movie downloads via the iTunes type store using QT 7.

-Home videos and digital photos? Sure.

-Holds, plays and downloads music too.

It will be THE one box to seize control of your digital entertainment.

I CAN'T WAIT!

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