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"War is over...
...if you want it"

most of these rediculous decisions, come from flawed reasoning and pride, creative has made the first step, now for the rest of the non apple companies, to admit fallabilities

what's with the "Who" comment? those cheap MP3 players enough of an insult without having to make fun of an Asian name. keep the commentary pro-apple, but pc.

yoh, these 36% is worldwide marketshare. Here in germany the ipod is popular, but there are many others as well. In the US you might have an ipod only culture, but in europe and especially asia it's not quite the same picture.

FWIW, according to the Dashboard convertor widget S$1 = US$0.59

This may be bad for apple as removing competition may lull them into a sense of complacency. The miniscule but ever present threat of competition is what pushed apple to replace the popular iPod mini with the Nano. They had to cannibalize their own products so that someone else didn't do it for them ... I hope that at least some competition remains to keep Apple on its toes and investing in new products

you know, there is nothing wrong with healthy competition. you cant hate them for trying. Creative is a good company with Good products.. The Zen is a good product, but obviously the ipod is better/more popular. They make great speakers, and great sound cards. Let them live their life. Just because someone competes with apple doesnt mean everyone that likes apple has to hate them. I am PRO apple in almost everyway, but im not opposed to competition, or the mix of other products/ideas/companies.

war? there was already no war. it just game over since this summer.

Omigod.. you mean.. Creative's not a software company.. they are strapped to WMP or some such mediocre player, praying that whatever sense of affinity people had to their 'business machines' will rub off on their buying decisions at Best Buy.

Ugh. I'm really sorry Creative. I hated you all this time, and it's too bad you couldn't hang around.

On the bright side, it looks like the best, most affordable product is actually winning, and, that's a mighty accomplishment.

We actually have a competitive market.

Even if Apple gets a 90% share, it won't be a monopoly until iTunes becomes the dominant source for purchased music, which won't be for a loooong time..

Java,

As long as Steve is there, complacency probably doesn't have a chance. Remember, they JUST took the number one selling MP3 player in the world and discontinued it. Just >pop!< and it's gone, replaced with the Nano. That's not the act of a complacent company, that's the act of a company that knows it has to BE ahead to STAY ahead.

My gut feeling? Microsoft has put everyone on notice that either MS or a favored hardware maker is going to be producing the first TRUE iPod killer. They've been told either get out of the bizz now or be crushed between the rock of Apple and the hard place of Microsoft. This will be a hardware/software combination that will be "good enough" for many people and will be MS's last chance to take back the home media mindshare from Apple.

MDN Magic Word -- deal
The "deal" has been struck, and it wasn't with Creative....

another one bites the dust

Sim Wong Hoo has a future at Microsoft as "Chief Delusion Officer".

Aye! I've got it playing right now on my TDK speakers via iTunes ripped from CD @ 192kbps

We have the plot layed out for you, right next to Rio.

83% of all statistics are made up on the spot.......

Why didn't we read about this last week when the news item was originally released. I read about it a week ago. I guess MDN was waiting for another slow news day when they could show it's readers how humorous they are. Not!

Last week it was Australia, this week it's Singapore. Do I see a trend? Which "exotic" country cops it from MDN on the next slow news day. Come on MDN lift your game. Your advertisers wouldn't be happy with your ethnically based humour.

P.S. focker, it's not about being politically correct, it's more a matter about being decent to others. The MDN bozos haven't realised this …yet.

Magic word "good" as in good writing.

36% ???

No matter how you look at it, if the article is comparing apples to apples ( no pun intended ), 36% to 14% would mean that Apple is selling some product category ONLY 2.6 times more than Creative. You would definitely have to make up a category that includes a product that Creative makes and not Apple to get such a small ratio (you'd probably also need to exclude most of Apple's product line too).

The real problem for Creative is figuring out what to do next. They're a company without a compelling product. They've already taken a beating for cheesy sound cards with horrible driver support. That's why they were so anxious to grab some mp3 player market share, they need something to sell that people want.

Creative has bastardized the Emu brand and milked it for all they can in the musical instrument mfr market. Software based instruments have made Creative (Emu) hardware irrelevent, plus the market is saturated with good products so Creativ's crap isn't even on the radar with real musicians.

20 models of little plastic computer speakers priced from $9.99 to $29.99 is not going to save them. This segment is flooded with cheap junk. Cambridge Speaker Works is another American brand they bought and trashed.

THEY'VE GOT NOTHING GOOD TO SELL!

Good bye Creative!

He Hoo got it Wong.

Focker,

I hate people who alsway have to be pc. You're pathetic. You want flied lice? Fortune cookie?

hi:
Your stats are right according to my own independent study plus or minus 2%. However, only 67% of the readers here believe it. This has been confirmed by MDN Magic Word = written (as in the word is "written").

Creative needs to stop doing it the WONG WAY!

Him Hoo Wong got to go!

MW: slow (as in Wow MDN is running slow. I guess that server upgrade didn't work)

In the words of the late, great Al Czervik, "I hear this place is restricted Wong, so don't tell 'em your Jewish."

Emax, you're an idiot!

Believe me, I know music. I know what an Emax is (or was). "They" don't make their own speakers and their sound cards are JUNK. Apparently you were not ever duped by the Creative Sound Card for the Mac fiasco. Many devoted Mac users layed down $99 (or more) for a sound card that never had working driver support. Creative consistenly blamed Apple but they were always a generation behind the current Mac OS and finally just dropped support after dumping tens of thousands of useless sound cards into the Macintosh market. Mac users tried to embrace Creative and were flat out lied to and screwed hard. That's Creative - doing it the "Wong way"!

Focker -

My first reaction was teh same as yours. How pathetic to make an Asian joke - as if there was some ethnicity beyond reproach. Too bad Jeremy had to chime in with that ineptitude as well.

This should come as a shoke to no one. Yet what really burns me is how CREAF wasn't ORIGINALLY slammed by the market for these outrageous claims and is being rewarded by the market as they back off of them. I suppose no one took them seriously, which they shouldn't have - but were Apple to make such a wild claim as taking 40% of the PC desktop market and then loose a hundred million dollars trying, the market would destroy AAPL.

MDN word: her

1-Grokster follows Napster I down the tubes. Maybe some other bunch of morons will buy the name and start yet another lame WMA service.

2-(un)Creative is crushed under the weight of a pile of unsold toy digiplayers. We can only hope their sound card business will go the same way.

ha ha Hoo was Wong

DIE DIE DIE!!!!!!

Oh please, you pathetic PC apologists. MDN was making a joke about the Creative CEO, I believe, not an Asian joke, as in "who?", as in "not of any importance." Get a fsckin' life!

they all cried Boo Hoo!

To the politically correct morons:

Making a play on his name is NOT an asian slur. It is, simply enough, A PLAY ON HIS NAME! People make plays on names all the time. So why should an asian name simply be excluded from such name play. Geez, you PC people are some of the dumbest mofo's on the planet.

Don't shed tears for Creative for being beaten by Apple in the MP3 marketplace. Remember what happened to Aureal and Diamond in the sound card market - Creative was dominant and not the least bit apologetic about it. They cannot compete against the iPod effectively - whining about flash memory allocation is simply sour grapes, they need to either find other product categories or join Sonic Blue / Rio in the history books.