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I agee webbyswim-Moss is fair and balanced.
i have a nano. and it is scratched. from a view of a foot it looks fine. but if you tilt it you can see a ton of scratches. i tried the brasso stuff that an earlier article on here suggested. didnt work. i dotn understand why it is scratching. i am as careful with it as a i would be witha newborn baby who plays music... i ordered a case but it is taking forever to get here. i am upset about the scratchs, but i dont lose sleep over it..
that is all. those are my ramblings.
o and thank you webbyswim. i am glad you have not drank the steve jobs koolaid mixed with love juice that everyone else has and can think steve jobs can do no wrong in this world... i heard he is related to jesus christ himself...????
I am amazed that no one considers the fact that given it's size it is going to be more susceptible to scratching. Why?....
If you put a full size iPod in your pocket or even a mini, it is just not going to move around, but if you put a Nano in your pocket, it's going to slip and slide around and consequently get some scratches.
Apple's this explains why although it is made from the same material it is more "likely" to get scratched.
Just a thought.
jr.
mw act, as in I wish I "act"tually had one!
i just saw an interesting blog where a kid cut some foam, glued into an altoids case and he got himself a very nice case.
Again? More? Jeesh...
Walt, I gather, never polishes his own shoes. Instead, he uses the shoe shine services of that guy in his building's lobby frequently, I'm assuming.
Wear and tear on a good pair of shoes only enhances their beauty and comfort. Eventually, the shoes will go.
Any jarhead knows that even the barrel of his rifle will wear down with use. You know what he does when the grooves go smooth? He has sense enough to get a new rifle.
Only in the worldly ways of the prima donna...
There are no covers for the Nano at this time, with the exception of the Arm Band or covering it in clear plastic.
I carry my PSP and nano in the same bag--new, the faces to both appear to be made of the same material.
The nano is kept in a little pocket in the bag that normally would be for credit cards--not a lot of room to move around.
The PSP is a big pocket that usually has in it keys, a 3G iPod or two, pens, a few coins, and whatever I've emptied from my pocket.
The nano is covered in scratches. I don't particularly care--it isn't anything that effects the functionality, and even the screen scratches are there but they aren't anything that interferes with me seeing the screen.
The PSP, on the other hand, which has been treated much less well, bounced around, fallen a few times, etc., doesn't have a scratch on the facing. Now, I have just the screen covered with a plastic sheet so that, of course, would not scratch--but the rest of the front plate, including the edges where most contact with foreign objects would occur--is not protected at all and has no scratches, even when I've walked around with my keys rubbing against it.
And no one has touched the nano except me, while we had some young kids in the office a few days ago for hours so I let them use the PSP to keep them occupied.
I think the nano is great, and convenient, and nifty as hell..however, I don't care about its apperance so much. A company that markets heavily based on design and the looks of the product, however, has to expect that there will be considerable number of customers that do care about appearance.
I don't think Apple owes refunds to anyone or anything, but it ought, in the future, to use plastic with a surface at least as tough as the one Sony is using.
Maybe the Oct 12 iPod will have an innovative new plastic casing that "sucks less"!
Apple needs to fix this.
Oh for peace sake!
Mosberg is way off base on this very, very important issue!
What a 'tool' for the M$/Sony/Dell triad.
(just kidding, Walt rocks)
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MacGoog-
zCover is shipping silicone cases now. Mine shipped last Thursday, I am waiting (didn't want to pay extra for fast shipping).
In the meantime, I am using the little bag that came with my 20GB iPod to carry the Nano in. I got a couple of small scratches, but was able to remove them using Brasso.
Another hint - dirt is really abrasive - keep the Nano clean and you won't get as many scratches. Make sure to clean it well before trying to polish it and make sure to use a clean microfiber cloth too. A dirty microfiber cloth will scratch if it has hard dirt particles on it.
MacGoog: Invisible Shield is also shipping their adhesive film thing. I have it on one of my black nanos now. Works great and only slightly detracts from the nano's appearance.
And I think jeff is right: because of its size it is more susceptible to movement scratching, though OpJ makes a good point. Still, I wish I knew where Walt got his Treo. Mine gets scratched constantly.
This really is a lot bigger problem for Apple than many people realize.
The material being used IS NOT the same as other iPOD models. These things scratch like cheap dime store sunglasses! Not at all what you would expect from an Apple product.
The apologists need to make an effort to investigate the issue first hand and with physical inspection of two iPODs of identical age and normal use.
An Apple retail store would be a good place to start. Go have a look at the Nanos on display. Now go look at the Mini and other iPOD models on display. See a difference? ![]()
Glad to see that some people in the press are FINALLY starting to report on this. I saw the problem on day 2 at my Apple store and walked out with a new Silver 6G Mini instead!
What is happening is exactly what I thought would happen, and I know personally, I could never hang with something that is so easily damaged with normal every day use.
:rolleyes:,
Apple has officially, repeatedly stated the front surface material of the iPod nano is the same as that on the full size iPods. These statements were not a one time thing said by some new engineer or secretary. They were in official statements by the company. Apple is legally bound by these statements. If this is false, as you claim, then Apple is open to class action lawsuits because of it. Apple has done many stupid things over the last three decades but nothing as stupid as to repeatedly invite a class action lawsuit.
Most people (there are notable exceptions, even on these boards) are not blanketly stating that the iPod nano barely or rarely scratches. Nor are they saying the iPod nano is a perfect product from a perfect company.
You go on to state, "Glad to see that some people in the press are FINALLY starting to report on this." What "FINALLY"? There have been articles in both the mainstream press and the 'net press about the scratches issue with the iPod nano.
The iPod nano scratches too easily for you? OK. You got the 6 GB iPod mini. That suits your lifestyle. Congratulations.
Just don't go on about how people are not recognizing that iPod nanos scratch more than many people think they should. That is just not accurate.
or crystal!
I bet the Dell Ditty isn't having these problems... ooooo snap!
The whole point here is "normal" use. I've had a mini for 18 months, commute with it in my shirt or suit pocket every day, and leave it in my shorts pocket when I'm working out at the gym - and it doesn't have one scratch on it. After two days of commuting with the nano in my silk-lined suit pocket, it has several scratches. You wouldn't put up with a car whose paint peeled off when you drive it on the highway - why put up with a product that scratches so easily from "normal" use - "1,000 songs IN YOUR POCKET." While Apple is trying to minimize the problem, I can guarantee you they are working on fixing the problem and will leak the new product into the supply chain without telling anyone. Finally, for those who do not own a Nano, I would encourage you to go to the Apple store. You'll note that while most of the iPods have a few dings, nicks, scratches, etc., the nanos look like they've been dragged over sand paper - although, if the stores were smart or sneaky enough, they probably change them out more often so as not to give the impression that the nanos scratch way more easily than its bretheren.
wax
you know, they do rock (the iPod I mean...I love mine) but they also scratch really easily. The design of the thing (the color/shape) just doesn't lend itself to a "worn" look...IMHO. It'd be nice if the things were a little touger.
I love Mossberg. The best out there.
Just My Thoughts
I, like Walt, hope that Apple either changes the materials or pre-coats the nano with something like invisibleshield. There is no excuse for things like Cell Phones to be able to take so much more abuse and not scratch.
Mossberg calls it like it is. I think Apple will be listening. This sort of comment is important:
"This is also how I carry my Treo smart phone, whose screen is free of scratches after much longer and harder use than the nano's."
The ipod nano screen will be compared to other devices with screens, from PDA's to cell phones to other players.
And it is a visual product.
I hope Apple can fix this.
Oh, and I was surprised Mossberg didn't mention iVisit for video chatting. Not as good as iChat AV, especially in the user interface department, but it does support multi-vidchats and is both Mac and PC compatible. http://www.ivisit.com/
iChat AV is so much better than anything else out there that Apple might want to consider using it as another trojan pony to give windozers a sip of the kool-aid. It would not be as good of a business model as the iPod but they would have iSight sales as a possible revenue stream to justify it.
If Apple is going to move on iChat AV though, they should do it soon. If Skype comes out with a good solution, it is going to be much harder to use this in a powerful manner.

i enjoy reading mossberg's assessments. he calls it as he sees it. backed up with research facts and makes sure his opines are balanced. not everything is perfect, even from apple.
thanks moss'